Cloud Strife wrote:Okay I said I would lurk and only post when I deem it is needed (everyone knows why)
Welcome, Cloud. I went ahead and rearranged your post as it is a bit disorganized. Hope you don't mind.
They sit here, drum up support, money, goes on TV, make these dumb ass commercials making all of these empty promises. We are gonna do X,Y, and Z! Change, Make America Great again hoopla bullshit, been the same shit since I been a teen. Only to take office and NOT do any of the stuff they said to get them elected.
And, the lots follow them like sheep blindly. [...] Democratic, Republican it's not real. It's bout money. It's about fucking us in the ass. (I mean, why is that they get paid a stipend after they leave office for the rest of their lives? (guess where that money is coming from?)
This is why I don't debate, cause they lie to us. And, then we sit here and bicker with each other over lies they are telling us. I'm not sure how we as people stop it cause the people who fund the campaigns aren't us, it's big corporations and shady businesses who want something in an kickback from the elected official. So, anyone who is telling the truth, will really do right by us is edged out by the people with the backing of the money tree and the blind sheep eventually get shat on by the lying pieces of shit.
You seem to have a pretty good read of the overall situation. I think everyone here would agree with you that The Establishment (Republicans and Democrats, the Uniparty, major government organs and agencies, etc.) is corrupted and most of what we see on TV is simply theater to keep the masses in line.
I don't see how you can characterize any part of this thread as bickering. We've been civil the entire time.
But, the extent of everyone debates, has anyone really sat and really thought it all horseshit?
That's what we've been doing, sharing our thinking and our realizations as we've all grown up into adulthood. We've come a long way, from idealistic high school and college kids to adults with responsibilities in the real world who have gained a certain perspective on life.
So, my question for all of you, if you know it's bullshit (which if you don't by now, I'm shocked) and hasn't realized it's all horseshit?
What are you asking here?
Making it one endless vicious cycle and you guys debate it.
People talk and share thoughts, exchange information. We've been discussing this "vicious cycle" and if it can be broken or not and who might actually have a chance of doing it. It's been a good thread. Kudos to DeathScythe, SOLDIER, Saber, and abknight.